Fire Speaks – Blue Deer Center
Margaretville, New York USA
July 12, 2025
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Fire knows no pretense. It warms. It transforms. It connects.
Join us to hear what the fire has to say.
Fire Speaks is a ceremonial gathering where participants seek guidance from Grandfather Fire—known as Tatewari among Mexico’s Indigenous Huichol people—to receive ancient wisdom and spiritual insights around the transformative presence of a sacred fire.
Grandfather Fire in this form has offered guidance, teachings, and sacred stories to people worldwide for over two decades, helping individuals navigate life’s challenges with clarity, compassion, and courage. Through sacred storytelling and spiritual insight, this gathering provides a transformative experience that cuts through personal illusion and reveals new possibilities and deeper wisdom that can be practically applied in one’s life.
Participants consistently describe the experience as profound, enlightening, and heart-opening. For those feeling stuck or seeking meaningful change, this gathering offers a unique opportunity for spiritual growth, healing, and personal transformation.
Grandfather Fire’s teachings emerge as a beacon of timeless wisdom—cutting through doubt and confusion, inviting participants to see beyond their current limitations and embrace a more expansive view. His penetrating perspective transcends momentary challenges, offering a profound path to deeper understanding of ourselves and the world we live in.
You may experience:
- Connection and community
- Clarity and direction
- Increased compassion
- Cutting through personal illusions to see a broader worldview
- Heart-opening
- Pathways to personal transformation
- New possibilities for navigating life’s challenges
Schedule
Saturday, July 12, 2025
- 1:00 pm – 3:00 pm: Welcome. Free time on the land and visit the river
- 3:00 pm – 5:00 pm: Orientation & hear The Story of Humans and Fire
- 5:00 pm – 7:00 pm: Dinner and clean up
- 7:00 pm- Midnight: Audience with Grandfather Fire
Sunday, July 13, 2025
- 10:00 am: Brunch
- 11:00 am -1:00 pm: Followup Fire (Free for all participants)
Price
Adult Early Bird Price $140, before May 15th
Adult Regular Price $160
Children under 14 years old – FREE
For more information
For more information, contact Linda Azar at linda.azar@sacredfire.org
Hosting Firekeeper(s): This event is hosted by local Firekeeper, Mace Fleeger
Featuring
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Don David Wiley, medium for the Spirit of Fire
David Wiley’s perspective on what is possible and how to live life was profoundly altered in 1996, when the Spirit of Fire, often called Grandfather Fire, appeared before him as an apparition in the garden of a meditation retreat center near Mexico City. Grandfather Fire asked David to be his conduit, so people everywhere could discover their innate connection to spirit and have an experiential relationship with nature and Divine. Grandfather sent David to find two indigenous elders, Don Lupe Ríos Gonzales of the Wixárika (Huichol) tradition of Mexico’s Sierra Madres and Don Lucio Campos Elizalde of the Nahua tradition of the central highlands. At Grandfather Fire’s request, these two elders began David’s formal medicine and ceremonial apprenticeship in these two ancestrally related shamanic paths.
From the Huichol tradition, David received initiations as a mara’akame, a healer, counselor, and ceremonial leader; from the Nahua path, he was initiated as a granicero, a weather worker, ceremonial leader, and healer. After years of service and leadership, he received permission to teach these two traditions to those called to these shamanic paths. After Don Lupe’s passing in 2003 and under the support of mara’akame Don José Sandoval de la Cruz, David received initiation as a Huichol tsaurirrakame (elder shaman) in 2008. On the Nahua path, David became a Caporal Mayor (teacher-tradition leader) when he inherited Don Lucio’s altar and the responsibility for his Nahua weather working lineage after Don Lucio’s passing in 2004. As a recognized elder in these two traditions, he has received the title of respect, Don David.
Concurrent with Don David’s immersion in this traditional medicine path work, starting in 1996, Grandfather Fire began speaking through Don David’s body during special gatherings. This has been some of the most impactful of Don David’s work, touching thousands of people. Among the Huichol, an axihuatakame is a “god-speaker man,” a traditional spiritual medium who enters a coma-like state so that a deity can physically interact directly with humans. A collection of Grandfather Fire’s wisdom was published as Heard Around the Fire in 2010; a second book is in final editing. An archive of teachings can be found on sacredfire.org as Grandfather Fire’s Wisdom. Over the years, Grandfather Fire inspired Don David and the community growing around Grandfather’s wisdom to spread traditional lifeways through the world. This lead to the founding of nonprofits Sacred Fire, which began training Sacred Firekeepers and hosting events and programs in 2004; Blue Deer Center, a Sacred Place in the Catskill Mountains of NY, a spiritual retreat of healing and transformation in nature which opened in 2005, and Sacred Fire Foundation, a charitable organization founded to promote and protect traditional indigenous lifeways in 2009.